May 1 2020 – How do you enforce a lockdown when nobody trusts the government? That’s the dilemma confronting the COVID-19 response in Chile, where the government entered the crisis with historically low approval ratings after introducing a 30 peso rate hike on public transport in the Spring. Abbey and Darshan chat with Carla Alberti of the Pontificia Universidad Catolica Chile about Santiago’s diverse array of lockdown laws (one for every borough), the strangely enduring beef between Chile and Bolivia, and of course, the cacerolazo.